Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:05:00 -
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I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills. |
Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:18:00 -
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No problem Asmadai. The best way to figure out where to go next is to group with people and experiment with militia gear. My TV is gone until Wednesday, so I'm learning all of the ups and downs through friends, corp mates, etc. It makes it a lot easier to figure out what to do when you have a buddy to do it with.
A word of caution though: Read everything on the forums with a grain of salt. There will be a lot of "QQ Threads" up because of the drastic change some people have to the new build. That'll last about a month, (Two weeks for this part of the build and two weeks for PC), then the forums will be more or less normal.
Good luck out there. Happy hunting |
Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:00:00 -
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Wow. I didn't know that my words would spark such controversy. I checked this thread on a whim, but it seems I owe you guys a more detailed explanation of why I said what I said. To that end, I'll respond to the points brought against me, then give a more compete response.
@PADDEhatpigen:
You comparison to EVE and DUST is valid. It seemed like you were saying: "No change, patch, or update will change what you can do now". However, this is not EVE. The forums was abuzz with the new multiplier for skills (My info came courtesy of Free Beers). I saw that info and made a spreadsheet to compare old costs with new costs, played around with the level I would train those skills too, and compared the final number to the total SP I had. I think that everyone who was serious about what their character would "look" like after the respec should have listened for any information regarding changing SP costs.
@Matakage:
I don't think your argument is on solid ground, so to speak. I am also waiting until the 14th, as you are, to learn what works and what doesn't, again as you are. You are correct in saying "This game is in progress", but the game will always be "in progress". If CCP stays true to form, then we should be expecting new content of some sort every 4-6 months. A new player will always have to chose between "what is useful now" and "what might be useful later", just as every other player would.
To my "Elitist HTFU attitude"; I don't think that I am better than everyone else. I will be the first to admit that there are a lot of people in game that are much better than me. I also have nothing against flattening the learning curve of DUST. I loved the altruism of "The Dollars", "D-Uni", and "BSOTT". But "flattening the curve" by giving people ISK and Skill Books is different than "removing the curve" by offering resets to everyone who made a mistake because we all make mistakes. We could argue that adding another respec is just flattening the curve to a larger degree than giving out ISK, but that's beyond the scope of this conversation. Just PM me if you wanna chat about it.
@Garrett Blacknova:
You have a legitimate complaint. Fortunately, it is one that is easily fixable. I don't think something as major as CPU/PG upgrades will go unnoticed. I would still caution against a full SP respec in your case, however. You have the benefit of hindsight. You purchased the skills thinking that they would work. You thought that you were going to get "+5% PG" per level. I think that your SP should stay in those skill, and those skills should be fixed. I do not think that you should get that SP back because "in retrospect, that was a mistake", largely because that's a slippery slope. Unless they just reset everyone's SP to account for every mistake, someone who feels like their mistake is valid is going to be left out. I don't think its fair to the people who didn't make any "mistakes" this time around for all of their competition to get another chance to catch up. In my eyes, its like stopping a race because one racer had a bad start.
@Heavenly Daughter:
I don't think that's a legitimate argument for an SP reset because (As I mentioned to Matakage) things always change. No one here knows "how bad scrambler rifles will be". If they objectively suck - 20 damage at proto level, etc - no one will know until they put in the SP. It sucks for that one person, but we aren't trying to make every single person in DUST happy. In DUST, as in life, we learn from the community. Were someone to read the forums now, they would know that they should wait to skill into Circuitry, that the MD splash range is reduced, that the trajectory is slightly off based on the smoke trail of the round, and a bundle of other tidbits of info from people who skilled into a weapon that was not what they thought it to be. When I spend my SP, I am taking responsibility for whatever happens - good or bad. I think that we should all do that.
I posted what I said earlier because I want to take my own successes and failures seriously. Just as I would hate a "reset button" to planetary conquest, I dislike "SP respecs" as they have been proposed because it's giving everyone the easy way out. I might make a terrible mistake when I spend my SP. If I work up from that "disadvantage" and still come out on top, I want to be able to revel in that success. I want other to be able to say "Yeah, I skilled into heavies and I still beat you. Get Good", or something like that. SP resets cuts out the underdog, and i don't like that.
All things being said, this is just my opinion. If CCP resets everything, It won't effect me. I would rather not set the precedent, is all. |